Mexican legends premium stamp set
Itzae
Important
First, I’d like to clarify that I don’t want to ask for more than one premium set for México, I’m aware that there are countries with need of stamps, whether they are local or premium. I already suggested the Lotería stamp as a premium stamp set to replace the dishes one that many Mexicans asked to be removed for various reasons. This is another suggestion for my country because I think we should have options, there’s the Lotería one and the cuisine one that other user suggested. I believe we should be mindful about the fact that for now we shouldn’t ask for more than one set, even if is premium, I think many other countries want one, so let’s be kind with the Slowly team. That being said, please vote for the one you like best as a premium stamp set for México, I’ll let the other two options below so you can check them out:
For this proposal, I’d like to recommend a premium stamp set that’s based in Mexican legends, I feel like is a way to start conversations for those who love stories, also, I want to add a little more variety to the premium local stamps, so maybe others who doesn’t have a set of stamps will like to vary their request other than food, idioms, and such (which I love, but c’mon, the majority of our countries have so much more). I’ll post my favorite ones, but there’s many so feel free to suggest your own; however, please do check that is Mexican because, since we share many legends with other LATAM countries, sometimes we are under the impression that they originated in our country, like the Chupacabras (which is from Puerto Rico).
#1
La Llorona / The weeping woman

==From Mexican mythology, but let’s respect Hispanoamérica==
Of course, this one is a most, but to include La Llorona we need to talk about many things involving her legend, because I feel a complain coming. First of all, La Llorona is iconic for Hispanic America as a whole (let’s be real, the US media has abused this spirit for years when talking about us, hence why is so known), all the Latin American countries have their version of this legend; nonetheless, the trace of the legend in the mythology is from México, so it originates in our country. I ask from my people to be respectful to others version of this legend, and as well I ask other countries to recognize the origin without erasing your version, since la Llorona now days is used as a name to call certain types of what we believe are spirits in our respective countries, even México has many versions of it and I haven’t met someone who isn’t even from Xochimilco (where we believe is the origin) that hasn’t said they have heard her at night. This legend can be compared to the Chupacabras, which also each of our countries have a version of it and tend to say we saw it. Let’s say we all have it (both), but let’s also respect where it is said to be recorded first, at least in the modern world and the little that we keep from before the invasion.
==The different versions==
As I said, everyone in LATAM has its version, and México is no exception. Let’s start with the
precolonials
: For indigenous people there was a very particular spirit that used to cry near the rivers, the easiest comparison are the yokais from Japan, who are well known, so you could say La Llorona is a type of spirit for some, not just the particular woman we all envision. Other precolonial legends include the fact that she is indeed a particular spirit, a woman who killed their children (or the children just die in some versions) and then committed suicide, this is similar to the modern one, but with less details. It also may be a story created to dissuade children to do something dangerous.
For the Mayas the spirit was a divinity: Xtabay, someone who represent death, sin, lust, and hunger; beautiful to the core to seduce men and then kill them. The Zapotecans have a similar version to the Mayas, but with some difference in appearances.
Then there’s my favorite one from precolonial background: many think it was Cihuacóatl, a divinity for the Mexicas and the one who protected women that died giving birth. Some legends say she was one of the warnings for the Mexicas that something terrible was going to happen (the Spanish invasion), that she was crying for her children, but being her children the Mexicas themselves. She would appear at night near the river crying too.
The
modern
legends are a mix of Spanish culture and Indigenous culture, mainly to prevent the indigenous or mixed people to refer to her as someone from other religion that isn’t Catholicism. The appearance of someone in white clothing, long hair and her characteristic yelling remains, even if the latter is translated now to “¡Ay, mis hijos!” There are many versions to mention them all, so I highly recommend looking her up, is a most interesting legend, the Spanish wiki actually talks a little about many of them and is very well done. I’m afraid the English one is not as good, actually, it has misgivings, or at least doesn’t mention the complexity of the legend; even so, I didn’t find a better source for it, so I beg you to search for specifics if interested in some version in particular.
#2
El callejón del beso / The kiss alley

This one is a legend for and from lovers, when México was still held by Spain as a colony. The narrowest Callejon del Beso gives rise to a Romeo and Julliette type of legend about two lovers, Ana (or Carmen, depends on who you ask) and Carlos (or Luis), who used to lean out their balconies across the valley to kiss each other. Both were brutally murdered by Ana's father, a wealthy Spanish aristocrat, when he discovered her daughter's love for Carlos, a poor miner.
The legend says that the couple who kisses in the third step of the alley will have 7 years of happiness and love, whilst the couple who passes the alley but decide to not kiss or even acknowledge the place, will have 7 years of despair and bad luck.
This is a short version of the legend; nonetheless, there are many versions for this legend, yet all of them end in at least Ana’s death.
#3
La planchada / The ironed lady
“The story of La Planchada is varied, with a number of legends as to the origin of the spirit. In all of the stories, the ghost is invariably a female nurse. Some tales say she was in love with a doctor who spurned her, leading her to take her own life, and in others she is simply a curmudgeon who disapproved of younger nurses, or perhaps she killed a patient in an attempt to ease their pain” (from: The mask of reason )
#4
El cempasúchil

Xochitl and Huitzilin fell in love when they were children and used to climb the mountain dedicated to Tonatiuh, the Mexica sun god, to offer him bouquets of flowers; however, Huitzilin went to fight in the war to defend the Mexica lands and died. Therefore, Xochitl asked the god Tonatiuh to reunite her with her beloved.
The sun god let his rays fall on Xochitl, and she was transformed into a yellow flower, on which a hummingbird landed and opened its 20 petals, releasing an intense aroma. Thus, it is said that the love of the Mexica couple will remain as long as there are hummingbirds and cempasúchil flowers in the Mexican fields.
Note: Regarding the English version, pls be aware that the correct term is
Mexicas
, not
Aztecs or Aztecas. #5
La isla de las muñecas / The island of the dolls

The legend of this place tells that a girl drowned entangled among the lilies and her body was found on the banks of Don Julian's chinampas. Since then, the spirit of the unfortunate girl had remained in the place, which scared Don Julian. To chase her away, Julian Santana began to place in his chinampa dolls that he collected in the garbage and in the canals of Cuemanco, he said that it was there to scare away evil spirits and get better crops.
As every legend, there are other versions of it.
#6
El charro negro / The black charro

You could say that this legend is similar to La Llorona, it has preinvasion background, as well as Spanish influence due to the colonization.
According to the general legend, the black charro appears at night, in the streets of the cities, or on rural roads. Being mysterious, he sometimes accompanies walkers, but if the person agrees to get on the horse or receives the sack of gold coins from him, his soul will take the place of the black charro as the devil's personal collector.
The indigenous parts involve divinities such as Tamatsi Teiwari Yuawi from the Wixárika communities, whilst the Spanish contributions are mainly about the mention of the devil as a representation of evil (things that indigenous communities also had but represented differently). El charro negro or Mestizo azul punishes those who wreak havoc in the forests and commit greed, all whilst he guards the treasures.
[Spanish wiki]
Have to link directly because the link has ()
: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charro_Negro_(leyenda)If you’ll like to suggest some legends, whether they are precolonial or contemporary, please do!
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chocochocolala
You made a great research, and I love all the legends you selected. I always tell this legends to my penpals that are interested, so it'd be great to have this set and send the corresponding stamp for the legend I'm telling!!!. I'm also glad that you added the link to the Cuisine set, thanks for it!!. If you need help with anything else, as Mexican I can help.
Itzae
chocochocolala: thanks a lot, Choco! (love ur user name :D)
I also had many conversations with my penpals about our legends, they often ask about "La Llorona" and I love telling them my favorite version. We talked about witness stories too! I think, rather than just talking about the story, we also love sharing experiences with the legends, hence why I picked those haha.
Thank you for offering, I think it would be very helpful if you know some Mexican penpals or users that are interested in this kind of set (or any of our suggestions for that matter, this one seems to be more attractive in general, but let's remember that this is also for México) so they can vote! Also, if you can mention your favorite legends since these ones are just my picks, or if you agree with any that I mentioned. I only have one Mexican pen pal and a friend irl using the app, so there's that for me haha.
chocochocolala
Itzae: I know other legends, but they are mostly local, and as I said, I love the legends you selected.
It'd be cool to have one for Popocatépetl and Iztaccíhuatl, but maybe it'd be a landmark stamp.
And I also like La Mulata de Córdoba.
I'm going to share the link in my bio and with my mexican penpals.
prvosenka
Recientemente he escuchado la história de Xóchitl y Huitzilin, es la leyenda sobre la flor de cempasúchil, cual crece en mi país también.
Esta história me gusta mucho. Yo mencioné en la propuesta de Flores 3 🙂.
Itzae
prvosenka: Es una flor preciosa! ¿De pura casualidad eres de algún país de Centroamérica? ya que tengo entendido que es ahí donde crecen también, no sé si la misma variante (hay muchas, no me las sé todas jaja), pero me alegra mucho que compartamos esta flor, ya que representa cosas bonitas.
Si en tu país tienen ancestros y comunidades vigentes Mayas, me parece que ellos también tiene una versión de la leyenda y, aunque ésta en particular es Mexica, ambas culturas comparten mucho y mucha gente cree que son descendientes de Aztecas las dos:)
prvosenka
Itzae: No, yo soy de Europa. Aquí hay también muchos tipos de cempasúchil desde amarillas hasta que naranjas oscuras, pequeňitos o más altos con las flores que tienen las flores 7 cm de diámetro.
Tengo un amigo de Slowly de México cual me dije sobre esta historia. Me interesé que esta flor es muy favorita en el Día de los Muertos y además se usa para decorar las tumbas con ella aquí, pero por supuesto, se cultiva en los jardínes también :)
Yann2
prvosenka: me encanta veerte ahi participando en este sitio y las conversaciones. Gracias, amiga! 🤗👍🙂
Itzae
prvosenka: Aaah! Qué increíble que lo mencionas porque resulta ser que la exportación de cempasúchil es super interesante y tiene mucha complejidad a la adaptación cultural.
Si es originaria de México, sin embargo, cuando España invade se la llevaron para muchos lados. Por ejemplo, en la India también llego desde acá y es una flor muy querida que se usa en distintas ceremonias y ofrendas; no obstante, crece distinto y se creo una nueva variante.
Asimismo, las variantes Europeas y Africanas se adaptaron a sus países y ahora incluso hay más variantes de las que ya había en México!:D La nuestra (típica, hay 30) me parece sigue siendo la más alta, ya que puede medir hasta 2 metros, y las muy especiales 3 . Igual todas me gustan, y aunque tengo inclinación por la nuestra relacionada al "Día de Muertos", muchos consideran la flor una representación de migrantes que se tuvieron que adaptar a los países.
También hay un documental de un extranjero acerca de ello llamado:
Las vidas múltiples de la flor de veinte pétalos
Yann2
Itzae wrote :
"That being said, please vote for the one you like best as a premium stamp set for México, I’ll let the other two options below so you can check them out:"
You are being modest and kind. Your proposal is outstanding, and all 3 other Mexican proposals in my opinion also deserve to be voted on.
Rationale - while you are being careful not to push too hard in benefit of one particular country, the whole site here is tremendously skewed, by the form they lay out contents.
Most people land on the site and are shown the 'Trending' topics list. For many, that might be all they see, unless they are curious and venture out exploring.
The top trending topics have vote counts in the multiple hundreds - and mostly for this reason alone.
Sadly, the New proposals list is not preeminent in that way.
Given this serious problem, I would not refrain of asking people to vote in support of ANY proposal that has good content and some merit. I would even encourage that, in fact.
Wonder how my friend Nonethewiser would look at this?
Thanks Itzae once again. You are doing the Good Works.
Nonethewiser
ImpossibleTwin: of course, people should vote for ALL the proposals they enjoy. I believe that no one should be discouraged from submitting interesting, original ideas or voting for them.
Many users felt that it would best to complete the location stamps first by adding ideas for stamp-less countries, which has now been done and the proposals are in. The rest is up to the Slowly Team.
Personally, I am also very glad for the poll with categories, as it took care of something I felt strongly about - namely, numerous stamps from categories that only small groups of users enjoy, while other major points of interests were being overlooked.
Yann2
Nonethewiser : Thank you for confirming some of my feelings and intuition.
I am also glad for the recently arrived 'Categories' section. Hopefully it can help the Slowly team gauge demand and user's preferences, and be able to allocate their limited time and financial outlay to proposals that are wanted, popular - specially for Stamp Sets, and the ones that will SELL.
We love the stamps, it's fun to wait and see them coming, but in reality their sales is what keeps the Slowly servers online, the bills paid, and our letters, attachments, pen pals all available to all users.
We have to be thankful to the team for providing a full featured experience for the FREE service users. They experience all aspects of the app, with little more added to the PLUS paid services tier.
Itzae
ImpossibleTwin: You're too nice, and I'm thankful for your comments!
I believe I should be realistic, even if I would love to have the three sets, that would be selfish of me since we have to take into account all the countries, and I'm especially concerned about those countries that have users but barely any stamp, yet I also think we can leave several proposals and see which ones are more supported, even if just one will get picked, it's good to have options!
Yann also mentioned how they can be used for the future, and tho I must admit I usually don't vote for countries that already have premium stamps AND premium set stamps (I do sometimes if I particularly like it), I don't think is necessarily wrong for them to ask, the future may allow slowly to give more than 1 set to countries (some may even want them replaced like México, I've read people from Germany who would like a set change). There's also the fact that there are some places with more users, hence why they have more proposals and number of votes, and that's completely valid:)
I agree, trending topics shouldn't be on the main page, I mean, they are trending for a reason and, in most cases, they don't need more votes. Unfortunately, I think there's just a small group of users that read new proposals, not to mention that not everyone is willing to vote for suggestions that aren't for their country. I'm admit I'm biased towards LATAM, but I try to vote for every country that needs it in a way.
Thanks again:D
Itzae
So, I wanted to leave my suggestions at that, and perhaps if others wanted, they could share theirs, but a friend of mine asked me to post theirs for them, or more like do the research (you better vote you lazy little thing! / jk they already did).
I picked the ones in the main post because, I assure you, every Mexican knows at least two, they’re wildly known and told, but more importantly: they’re the type of legends we like here. In a way, we enjoy interacting with the legend, more so if they’re scary, that’s why spirit related are so popular, we want to know we can witness them rather than just tell a story, even with the romantic ones like “El callejón de beso” allows you to interact, and well, the cempasúchil I added because it’s an important flower for México.
It's my belief that La Llorona is a must because she’s so iconic, but I do think that the set can have less scary related legends, tho perhaps that won’t strike witnessing conversations as I originally thought about it, which I suggested because we like that…I mean, in my city people will sleep in cemeteries just to have a story about witnessing something. Also, on the Day of the Deaths many put their altars there to spend the night, even if they don’t have family in there, haha.
My friend suggests that maybe some would prefer legends that aren’t that known but very important for our folklore or at least interesting, also, she loves animal/creatures’ legends related so here they are:
El tlacuache y el fuego / The possum and the fire

A Wixárika story. One day the fire broke loose from a star and fell to the earth, causing a fire. Then the ancient giants of the mountain protected the fire and did not let it die out, they appointed commissions that were in charge of cutting trees, plants, animals, and everything that was within reach to satisfy the hunger of the fire.
To prevent the common people from stealing the treasure of the fire, they organized a powerful army led by a tiger that devoured many villagers when they tried to steal it. Nevertheless, the tlacuache approached the camp thinking how to steal with caution, and, finally, one day he approached the campfire, saying he was tired and cold, grabbed an ember and ran off with the fire, which he later gave away to the men. As the tlacuache grabbed the fire with its tail, it resulted in burning the hair of the animal's appendage, it is said that this is the reason why tlacuaches have hairless tails.
El Xoloitzcuintle

These dogs are said to be the ones who guide you through the river that leads to Mictlán, the afterlife for the Mexicas (or Xibalbá for the Mayas). If someone in live treats the Xoloitzcuintle badly (some legends talk about it as animals in general), they won’t be able to enter the afterlife as they’ll have no guide, thus living them to wonder as a spirit to the end of times.
If the Xoloitzcuintle is black, he will not be able to take the souls to the other side of the river, because his color indicates that he has already submerged in the river and has already guided enough souls to their destination. Likewise, if the Xolo is white or very light colored, he will not be able to cross the river either, because that means that he is very young and has not yet reached the maturity to do so. Only when they are mottled gray (which is the usual color for them) will you be able to perform this important task.
Note: I’m begging at this point because I’m baffled the English versions haven’t updated this knowledge considering how long has been. They are
Mexicas
not
Aztecas/Aztecs, please pay no mind about the fact that official English sites refer to them as the latter, is incorrect. Aztecas weren’t there when Spain invaded, they’re an older culture than Mexicas, Aztecs are Mexicas ancestors and researchers aren’t even sure they existed as they describe them, or if they were called that. Nahuas is sort of correct but not exact, as Nahuas refer to more than one culture and is mainly related to language. Leyenda de los nahuales / The legend of the nahuales

The nahual is a nocturnal creature, which during the day acts as a normal person and at night becomes a beast. Is a dark, mythological and powerful being, since it possesses special witchcraft and perhaps supernatural gifts.
In Tlaxcala, it was believed that in the times of Tlaxcallán, the nahuals were protected by the divinity of war and sacrifice: Tezcatlipoca.
Even though they’re called beasts, each nahual can choose any animal to transform, often picking one that is useful for their purposes or less rare to encounter to avoid suspicion. Some say they can transform into a sort of chimera too.
I didn’t find many reliable sources in English, many tell the version of the Spanish. The information isn’t a lie
per se
, but it lacks context and affirms stuff that isn’t really known. Just take into account that not all people think the nahuales have a totem or a guardian as an animal, many just believe they choose their animal. Note: the word
divinity
is a better term for the “Gods”. Being called Gods is a sort of translation but is not exact, let’s remember that those words are from invasive languages that tried to convey the culture of the natives, but they aren’t accurate. Divinity, of course, isn’t exact either, but Spanish nor English have a word for them, some try to call them “energies”, but that’s also not precise. Those were my friend’s proposals. If you prefer particular ones already published do tell! Also, you can suggest others and I may provide useful information if I find it and when I have the time.
Yann2
Itzae: Wow, some more ?
By Byte count, you must certainly have the Biggest proposal on site, lol... Just kidding, I love what you are doing, much appreciated. 😜👍🚀
Itzae
Yann2: These are more like my friend's proposals, hehe. I hope slowly team doesn't mind many comments tho...
Funny enough, even though the last one is a legend, the first two in this comment are myths, but my friend really likes them so I decided to include them, perhaps it can be a myths and legends set:)
Yann2
Itzae wrote :
"I hope slowly team doesn't mind many comments tho..."
No, not at all - this is huge valued added to their site here. Meaty topics is what interests me.
What I think is not really productive is to have quick single line idea outlines without any research, links to more details, illustrations, etc. There have been plenty of those here lately, and they tend to remain with low responses or engagement.
I am glad to see the quality of posts has been improving so much from the early days of the site. Now we have outstanding content and presentation in many, many topics.
Keep up the good work, it's appreciated.
Yann2
== test format ==
Although these are valid markdown, Canny does not support it - or Quotes, which I made a request on their site for, hugely important and simple to do.
> quote paragraph goes here
...and they don't support that, Itzae. Not yet anyways.
Awesome work on the presentation here, I am happy and impressed. We are moving forward! 👍😎
Itzae
I was saddened when that one didn't work, so thanks for telling me so I don't make the same mistake.
I thought about making it bold or cursive but it didn't look nice to me, so I just decided to leave it like that, it reminds me a little when in forums we would separate themes that way (or with ~ ), that's why it didn't bother me much even if I wish I knew this.
Sadly, as I mentioned in the other comment, I can't edit anymore, but now I and others know, thank you!
Yann2
Itzae: ah, pity you can't edit, but it's understandable, you did really well.
I found out there was the problem with the parentheses on some wikipedia links and the bit.ly shortcut was the first solution that worked, so now we know. Next time, right ?
Thanks for the introduction which was very appropriate as well!
Yann2
Great job, Itzae, I specially like the introductory paragraphs explaining the rationale - and the fact there are limited resources, a lot of countries with suggestions, etc.
I was directly questioned on this here in another topic, since the person who asked saw my open and active support for the various proposals for Brazilian stamps.
As I explained very clearly there, I think we need to support any user or group of users who comes forward like you did here, like istovx did for the Brazilian set ideas, or Amigo97 has done for so many Netherlands related ones.
It's understandable that we could only expect one set to be issued at a time, but a good line up of well researched and presented ideas is a rich resource to have on hand. And the Slowly team can return to them when they have a chance.
Your presentation and research here is also impecable, congratulations on a job well done. You have my support. 😎👍🍷
A quick note
- if you want to use a Heading, you need a space between the '#' and the next characterthat follows it. This space is missing on your section headers, and if you can still edit the OP it wil fix it. Good luck and sucesso! 🚀✨🌟
And a small fix on the
last paragraph as well
- currently :[Spanish wiki]Have to link directly because the link has (): https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charro_Negro_(leyenda)
I have seen that, and tried to find a solution - it does work if we use a bit.ly shortened one, was the only way I could fix it. Your wikipedia link is this
https://bit.ly/3ueerW4
and the whole thing will work.[Spanish wiki](https://bit.ly/3ueerW4)
Itzae
Thanks a lot! I do think we have to make the best of this site but, at the same time, be mindful that we're many who wish for some stamps for our country, hence why we shouldn't be demanding. And you're right, this can be used for the future!
Much appreciated, I did struggle a little with the headers, tho I must admit that the '#' like that was intentional, haha. I usually put them alongside the numbers in particular lists like this one, does it look strange? I did mean to make the titles headers, but since I couldn't figure out how to put it I removed it, just the number ones remain out of habit for when forums just started, at least in LATAM was very common, yet looking at it is not nowadays.
Thank you for the link! Unfortunately, I don't know if it's because a considerate amount of time has passed or because of the votes, but I can't edit anymore, a shame because I would have added the headers as well. But I'll take it into account in the future!
Yann2
Itzae: I looked at the post an hour ago or so and noticed that you did have Headers, larger type in the section titles.
And then it clicked, that like you explained, your idea was to have #1 stamp, #2 stamp, etc. Styling consideration. No problem.
Editing disappears at some point, I wanted to find out when it happened and sent a letter to Slowly, they in turn sent an email to Canny asking.
I think it could be either time or a vote count - possibly when it passes the 5 votes count.
Thank you for the effort and presentation, super well done.
Itzae
I hope they answer so you may share it with us~
I also think is vote-related, but time may be a factor too, maybe both.
Thank you!
HeroIsAGirlsName
Great proposal! I love local legends/mythology of all kinds. This sounds like it could be a really original and beautiful set.
Itzae
Me too! I hope more stamps with those themes get chosen, and maybe if this one turns out well (in case it gets released), other countries are more motivated to ask for legend-related stamps~
Nonethewiser
Itzae, you did a fantastic job, thank you for this wonderful idea! I really enjoyed your suggestion for the Lotería, and this one is a perfect addition to the list of
Mythology / Folklore
stamp ideas. I have just added it there.Pleasing everyone is very hard indeed, especially if resources are limited, but I think Slowly Team is doing a great job: they launched this site and the poll, to listen to our ideas and better understand what we would like to get. It is ultimately up to them to decide which stamps get released, where and when - and if there are great original ideas (such as yours) that will appeal to many people, they are always welcome here. :)
P.S. Huge GRACIAS for mentioning slang / idioms - I think the poll results are also quite clear there. ;)
Itzae
Thank you! I really like the lotería one, but is mainly because of the aesthetic so perhaps not the best to relate it to themes in a letter (I usually use stamps for that or to show my mood or support). That's why I wanted to include something that can be mentioned, I talk with two of my penpals about our legends a lot, so I think it fits for those who love stories.
Still, if the Lotería gets considered, I would be very happy since is so iconic at our parties, I even heard that some play it at funerals (it has sense if I say the history).
I'm so very grateful for this site! that's why I want to be considerate with them and not push for more than necessary, especially considering how many countries lack local stamps.
Haha, Idioms can be interesting and cute, but not much appealing to me in general. I guess they're fun for the locals, but perhaps not to others, the only one I'm excited about is the Argentinian if it gets released, but that's only because I completely understand the saying being that I speak Spanish and I talk a lot with people from Argentina, so their idioms are clever but just cute to others. I prefer if people ask for other types of sets for their countries, I particularly enjoy history-related ideas, even more than the cuisine ones (I wouldn't complain if my country gets one tho:P)